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  • QuintZine
    A Career and Job-Hunting Newsletter
    Volume 02, Issue 18 ISSN: 1528-9443 September 10, 2001
    Editor's Note: Under-represented Job-Seeker Issue
    This issue of QuintZine is our annual look at JOBSEEKING FOR THE UNDER-REPRESENTED. The group we mostly focus on this year, older workers, is actually well-represented in the workforce as a whole, but under-represented in hiring and perhaps over-represented in downsizings and layoffs. We chose to explore the struggles of older workers because we get many requests from readers over 40 who are having difficulty finding a job.

    In the articles I wrote for this issue, I offer some documented reasons that younger hiring managers don't like to hire older workers. But another reason occurred to me, though it's only speculation on my part. I know I was at first reluctant to write the articles for this issue because I didn't want to face my own status as an aging Baby Boomer. Therein, I suspect, lies another reason younger managers have a hard time hiring older workers -- mature employees remind them of the inevitability of their own aging process.

    We'd like to hear from readers about any age discrimination they've faced. And younger readers with hiring power -- how do you feel about hiring older workers? And do you, as a younger worker, feel you've ever faced discrimination from older hiring managers?

    --Katharine Hansen, editor at kathy@quintcareers.com


    Feature Article: Attitude is Key for Older Workers
    Positive Attitude is Key When Fighting Prejudice Against Older Workers

    Age discrimination is real. We know it anecdotally from readers we've heard from who've been blatantly discriminated against because they're older. We know it from legal cases, such as a complaint brought by AARP, the advocacy group for older Americans, against an executive-search firm that screened out candidates over 45 at the request of some clients. And we know it from statistics.

    To make matters worse, age discrimination, which can begin as early as 40, seems to be much more subtly acceptable than, say, gender or racial bias.

    While complaints of age-related discrimination are rising, complaints about most other forms of job discrimination are not, reports Newsday.

    As real and as painful as it is, however, age discrimination can best be fought with an upbeat attitude. (And NOT one gained though cosmetic surgery, as a new book on older workers suggests...scary!) If you feel yourself bumping up against the "grey ceiling," our article offers ways you can empower yourself with an optimistic outlook.

    Read the full article.

    See also Myths about Older Workers.


    Special Features: Job Strategies for Older Workers
    See our tips and techniques for those over 40 and unemployed: Approaches and Tactics for Older Workers Who Can't Find a Job

    And learn how to use job-hunting strategies to rise above the obstacles of age in our article at: Resume, Cover Letter, and Interview Strategies for Older Workers


    Quintessential Careers Site: The Black Collegian
    Quintessential Site Award The Black Collegian.

    The Black Collegian Online, celebrating the 30th anniversary of its magazine component this month, has long been one of our favorite publications. Whenever we conduct research on college and careers, relevant articles from The Black Collegian consistently turn up at the top of database searches. The usefulness and scope of the magazine's articles is remarkable, not just for an African-American audience, but for everyone interested in the topics the magazine explores.

    The publication's Web site is no different. Here's how the site describes itself. "THE BLACK COLLEGIAN's Home Page was launched in November of 1995 to reach an even larger audience with our information on career development, self-development, and job opportunities. You'll also find information on study abroad programs, health and fitness, graduate/professionals schools, internships/co-ops,and other important information designed to ensure a smooth transition from college to a successful career. Now available online, we hope to reach more students including other minorities, as well as provide the African-American community with information and entertainment they would be interested in seeing on the World Wide Web."

    In addition to its outstanding articles, the site has job listings and an opportunity to post resumes, as well as "channels" on such topics as Graduate/Professional School, What's Happening, African-American Issues, Global Study, Career Related, and X-Tra Curricular.

    Happy 30th anniversary, Black Collegian!

    See all our featured Quintessential Sites.


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    Domain Name Sanity is a Quintessential Careers Partner Site.


    Latest Additions: New Sites Added to QuintCareers

    BoardSeat -- if you're an executive, professional, or academic looking for a spot on a board of directors or advisory board, then this is the site you need to visit. Client companies include start-ups, venture-backed companies, public companies, and non-profits. Free to candidates.

    funjobs.com -- are you looking for fun employment opportunities? Then this is the job site for you, where the philosophy is "love your job. Love your life." Job-seekers can post your resume, search for jobs, and send your cover letter and resume directly to the companies. Membership required. Free to job-seekers.

    iHispano.com -- a leading source for Hispanics and bilingual professionals to find new jobs and careers. Job-seekers can post your resume and/or search jobs (by keywords, location, job category, and salary). Also includes some career advice. Free to job-seekers.

    Senior AIDES Program -- an employment and training program that uses community service to update enrollee's skills so that you may rejoin a competitive workforce -- currently operating in 27 states and the District of Columbia. Job-seekers must be 55 years of age or older. Other resources include job clubs that assist in networking, preparing resumes, and polishing interviewing techniques. Free to job-seekers.

    Find even more career and job site additions to Quintessential Careers by visiting our Latest Additions section.


    The Career Doctor Answers Your Questions
    Got a career question? The Career Doctor is holding office hours!

    John writes: "I am 54, and after 25 years in sales with a Fortune top 5 company, got laid off. I then took the necessary courses and over a period of two years got my MCSE (as one of the exams got retired this past April, I'm now only a MCP). I've done tier 2 network support, desktop support, set-up and installed two small NT4.0 networks, and I became a de-facto project manager on my last job before they did away with it. I've now been looking for five months and am having a terrible time trying to get an interview. How do I overcome being old, and overqualified for the jobs I apply for and not really qualified for the jobs people assume I am ready for?"

    Career Doctor Randall S. Hansen responds to the question.

    Sondra writes: "How does one at the age of 57 find employers willing to avail themselves of the vast experience one has to offer. I have owned my own import-export company, I have had my own security company, and also have hotel-management experience. I have emailed a couple hundred resumes. I have had two telephone interviews, one personal interview, and no other responses. How does an 'almost senior citizen' earn a living?"

    See the Career Doctor's response.

    Miriam writes: "How do you best respond to questions when you have a couple jobs in the past that were of short duration? I thought of omitting them from my resume, but that would leave a large time gap. I have a phone interview this Monday and I'm sure the question will come up. I've even tried revising my resume to make it less obvious, which has now been getting me some interviews. I was 6 1/2 years with one employer, went into consulting for a year, but then had

    two short-term employments thereafter. The short-term jobs have been a 'red flag' to employers, and I am always heavily questioned about them. And in cases where a job has been misrepresented to you, you cannot say that to a potential employer."

    See the Career Doctor's opinion.

    David writes: "I will be 42 in October. I don't have a college degree, but I am working on a marketing/business degree at night. I take six hours per semester and three hours in the summer. I have been working for a well known worldwide manufacturing company for the last 15 years. I started in the production shop and have worked my way as far as inside sales account rep and team supervisor of five employees for the after-market group of our division. My question is: Do I continue to pursue a degree part-time, or would it be worth it to quit work and go to school full-time, if I can find a means of part-time income that will allow me to do this? Also, how much will a four-year degree benefit me at age 45? Should I continue on until I have earned a master's degree at age 47 or 48? Obviously having the degree is better than not. However, how much will it truly do for me at age 45 or 48 in today's market? One more question: Would I do just as well with some sort of an IT certificate and to continue to go to school for the rest of my working years to keep up with new technology? If this is the best road to take, what areas of technology do you suggest and why?"

    See what the Career Doctor has to say.

    Read more from the Career Doctor Archives.

    Send your questions to: mailto:careerdr@careershop.com


    Zany Interview Questions? Reader Input Needed
    For a future article, we'd like to know:

    What's the weirdest, wildest, most off-the-wall interview question you've ever been asked?

    What did you think when the question was asked, and were you happy with how you responded?

    Share your experiences at: kathy@quintcareers.com.


    Q TIPS: Quick and Quintessential Career & Job Tips
    Once again, an article aimed at employers offers riches for job-seekers in under-represented groups. In an article aimed at increasing diversity hiring, WetFeet offers a listing of sites where employers can find minority candidates. You can bet that if employers are being told to recruit at these sites, job-seekers would do well to post resumes on these job banks. See WetFeet's article.

    And, of course, don't forget our own comprehensive collection of diversity employment resources.

    Business Week Online recently interviewed Ella L.J. Edmondson Bell and Stella M. Nkomo, authors of Our Separate Ways: Black and White Women and the Struggle for Professional Identity (Harvard Business School Press, August, 2001), about the differences between professional black women and white women. The authors based their findings on an eight-year research project that included 120 in-depth interviews and a national survey of black and white female managers, many holding senior positions at top U.S. companies. Some key distinctions:

    • White women often align themselves more closely with their male colleagues rather than with the black females in their organizations.
    • Women are still not seen as authority figures. Women, and black women in particular, are seen more in subservient roles or working in more traditional fields, such as teaching school.
    • The black women studied didn't feel that they had to submerge who they were to get ahead, while the white women felt that they had to totally acquiesce, to give in and be like one of the boys to advance their careers.
    • The "sassy, but refined" posture that many black women adopt, the authors say, can sometimes backfire when it's seen as anger and unwillingness to be a team player.
    • Black women's performance often has to be beyond what anyone would ever expect, for it to even be accepted as OK.
    • Black women see racism in the workplace so frequently that they've come to expect it.
    • The white woman is the new gatekeeper in deciding who moves up and who doesn't.
    • Black women have a tendency to be much more collective in their approaches, while white women tend to be highly individualistic.
    • The experience of all women trying to climb the corporate ladder is not the same across racial lines. Gender makes a big difference, but race makes a tremendous difference.

    Read the full interview with the authors.

    It's not a big surprise, but according to techies.com, women are under-represented in terms of salaries in the tech realm. A techies.com study found that women in technology jobs earn 92 percent of what their male peers make, but greater disparities still exist in relation to higher management positions in the IT sector.

    Of the 106,133 technology workers studied, women earned an average of $5,000 less than men. The study found that women in high-tech jobs earned nearly the same amount as men for the first five years of employment. The gap was smallest for professionals in the software engineering and software development fields.

    In hot jobs like data management, however, the job salary did not match the demand; women earned just 84 percent of male earnings, which equals an average salary difference of $12,500.

    The biggest salary gap for women was in marketing and human resources. Female marketers earned $7,900 less than males, while female human resource managers earned $11,300 less than their male counterparts. For experienced female project managers, the salary difference was as high as 16 percent.

    According to the National Committee on Pay and Equity, women just aren't getting the kind of promotions at the same rate as men and don't move into the IT managerial positions as quickly.


    Job Boards: A Question for Our Readers
    For a future article, we'd like to know:

    What has been your experience with major job boards, such as Monster.com?

    Whether posting your resume on these boards or responding to ads posted on them...

    ... have you had a good response? Did you get interviews?

    OR

    ... have you had very little response?

    We'll quote you only anonymously or with your permission.

    Share your experiences by emailing: kathy@quintcareers.com


    QuintZine: Topics in Upcoming Issues
    WATCH FOR feature articles on these topics in upcoming issues of QuintZine:
    * How to conduct a long-distance job search
    * Maximize your Interent job search
    * The importance of company culture
    * Letters of recommendation and references
    * Career portfolios
    * How to handle a request for a salary history
    * How to land an internship
    * Should you get an MBA?
    * The value of a college education
    * Networking timetable for college students
    * The biggest myths in job-hunting
    * Using key marketing tools to positions yourself in the job market
    * Quintessential Career Profiles of YOU, our readers
    * Q&As with well-known career experts
    * Book reviews
    . . . and much, much more!

    To view back issues of QuintZine, check out the QuintZine Archive.

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    QuintZine
    A publication of Quintessential Careers
    Publisher:  Dr. Randall S. Hansen
    Editor:  Katharine Hansen
    ISSN:  1528-9443



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